Our last day at Hearthside Grove. The weather for the past two weeks has been incredible. Lots of sunshine and very warm temperatures.
The sense of community here has been far different than I imagined. Friendships formed quickly. Dinners, day trips, get togethers, and connecting with people as we walked around the resort.
Ken and Carol, Lou and Pam, Dave and Daphney, Moe and Cindy, Barry and Iris, Gary and Susan, Rita. These were a few of the many people we connected with during our time here.
Most of the people we have met are retired. Not surprising given that we are vacationing in mid-September. And all have been very successful in their careers. Such amazing life stories.
It has given us a glimpse into what our retirement will look like and we are very excited about beginning that part of our journey.
When we said good-bye to one of our new friends, she described Hearthside Grove as a paradise. And she is right. This has been such an amazing experience for us. We would certainly buy a lot but for the location. As Canadians, we need to winter south.
We are planning to spend a few months down there at one, or perhaps both, of those resorts in the early part of 2019. I hope we will see many of our new friends again.
If you are having trouble with the runoff from your air conditioner spilling over the top of your Dutch Star, then this might help.
Ever since we purchased our Dutch Star, we have had an issue with the front air conditioner. It would spill water on each side of the front cap. On the driver’s side, the runoff from the air conditioner would drip over the windows and leave nasty water marks that were really difficult to remove. On the passenger side, the runoff from the air conditioner would drip down both sides of the door and leave really nasty water marks on the finish.
Whenever it rained, water would run down from the roof on the front cap and, yes, you guessed it, leave nasty water marks.
I had read that it was important to keep the roof of the coach clean to prevent streaking. After sealing the roof in July, the front windshield stayed clean after a rainfall. But it did not make sense to me that the runoff from the air conditioner would spill over the rain gutter on top of the coach. Surely there must be a drain?
When the folks from Superior Coach Detailing did the wash and wax, they told me that they would remove debris from the drain gutters on top of the coach and that should allow the runoff to drain properly.
Well, there was a bit more to the problem than cleaning out the drain gutters.
It turns out that the Dutch Star has four drains from the gutters on top of the coach. On our model, two of them are located on each side of the front cap and two of them come down on the passenger side of the rear cap.
This is what the drain looks like:
It consists of a drain tube that is roughly an inch or so in diameter. That drain tube terminates with a pinched rubber hose which you can see in the picture above. I guess they pinch that part of the drain to prevent critters from crawling up the drain pipe.
For whatever reason, my front drains were not only pinched but they were put at a right angle and inserted into the overhang of the bottom of the front cap. So, much like crimping a garden hose, nothing was draining out of the tubes. The drain tube would gradually fill up, the rain gutter would gradually fill up, and the runoff from the air conditioner would spill out over the sides of the coach leaving nasty water marks.
I crawled under the front cap and straightened out the down tubes. A significant amount of water was then released immediately. Perhaps I should not have been as close to the down tube when that happened. The water did not taste very good at all.
And now? No runoff from the air conditioner spilling out over the top of the coach. The runoff drains through the down tubes as it should.
I’ve been told to check the drains at the top of the coach for any debris that might interfere with channeling the water from the roof to the ground. That makes sense.
And I’ve been told to check the pinched rubber hose to ensure that water is flowing freely through the down tube. And that makes sense.
Some people will even use an air compressor to blow out the drain pipe to clear any potential blockages. I would be very careful with that procedure and use very low air pressure as the drain tubes do not look that robust.
And, of course, none of this will be found in any manual for the coach. Thankfully there are forums like iRV2 to find some insight.
In July of this year, I made it to the top of the roof of our coach. It wasn’t the first time. I’ve been up there a few times.
I go up to clean the roof and to apply a sealant. It is always a bit of a stretch getting up there. I use a step ladder that can double as an extension ladder. The extension won’t go above the roof line so it requires a leg-over and a pull-over to get my body up and across.
Although I am still fit at sixty, I have found myself wondering about my personal safety clambering up to the top of the coach.
In coming up to Hearthside Grove, I was prepared to wash and wax our coach myself. I decided against doing so. For about $400, Superior Coach Detailing did an awesome job and I did not have to worry about getting up on the roof.
But the question remains: on or off the roof?
We have enjoyed making some new friends at the resort and one person we met had a tragedy happen in her life. When I mentioned that I was planning on doing some work on the roof of our coach, she was very blunt with me. She told me to stay off the roof.
Last year, her husband was doing some work on the roof of their motorhome. He slipped and fell from the top of their coach. He died from the injuries sustained in the fall.
I am rethinking the need to go up there now. Especially if I can hire a crew of younger and more experienced people to deal with any maintenance items on the roof.
Your Girard awnings won’t extend? They won’t retract? Are they stuck hanging outside your coach?
That happened to us a few days ago. And the solution for our coach was not something that you will find in a manual.
I was doing some outside work on our 2016 Newmar Dutch Star 4002. It is equipped with the Girard Nova Awnings.
Everything looked fine.
I went inside the coach and pressed the “IN” button to retract the awnings.
The awnings began to retract and, about halfway through the process, they stopped. They were stuck.
The awnings were partially deployed. They would not go in. They would not go out.
What could be wrong?
I did the usual: read through the manual, jumped on the Girard website, searched Google. And, after a few hours of floundering, I gave up and called the service manager at our dealer.
He knew exactly what to do.
Inside one of our bays are two Girard control devices. Our service manager called them “turtles”.
They look like this:
These two are working normally because the two indicator lights at the upper left are on. Not sure why the Girard engineers chose red LEDs as the normal condition light indicator. Wouldn’t a green LED indicator make more sense?
When our awnings became stuck, both those lights were off.
If you follow where they are plugged in, you will find something interesting marked on the outlet:
Well, look at that! They are plugged into a GFCI protected circuit.
Important to note: they are not plugged into a GFCI outlet. The plug is tied to a GFCI outlet. There is no reset button at this plug. We had to go hunting for the GFCI outlets elsewhere in the coach.
Our service manager asked us to reset two GFCI outlets. One in our kitchen galley and one in our small washroom mid-coach.
He suspected that there was some kind of voltage issue that caused the GFCI circuits to trip. One of the awnings was tied to the GFCI outlet in the kitchen, the other was tied to the GFCI outlet in the small washroom.
Finding said GFCI outlets is a bit of a trick.
In our case, the GFCI outlet in the kitchen was directly underneath one of the top row of cabinets.
You can make out the two buttons in the middle of the GFCI outlet. It takes a bit more work to press reset than I expected. There is quite a bit of travel and you have to really press down.
The reset button for our outlets is in the top position. The other button is a test button. If you press that one, the outlet may not reset.
In the small bathroom, the GFCI outlet was located inside our medicine cabinet.
We tested both of those outlets to make sure they were working before heading back down to the bay which holds the two Girard “turtles”. The indicator lights on the Girard controllers were back on.
Pressing the “IN” button retracted the Girard awnings. Success.
Filed under “Not in the manual” and “The things they don’t tell you about maintaining your coach”.
This is our coach, the Castaway. We are in our second year with the coach and we love it. It is a beautiful machine inside and out. Travelling through Canada and even through much of the U.S., we often stand out in a crowd especially if we are in a mixed park. And by that, I mean a park with other types of RVs like travel trailers and 5th wheels.
At Hearthside Grove, our bus would be in the middle of the pack between older Class A coaches and the high-end motorhomes. Hearthside Grove is a Class A park and they request coaches be 10 years of age or newer. Although they will accept Class A coaches in good condition that are older than 10 years. There are many older Class A coaches in the park right now.
I have never seen as many Prevost coaches in one place. Ever.
Some date back 10 or 15 years. Most are relatively new. The new ones price out in the $2 million range. The buses do depreciate relatively quickly however even a 10-year-old Prevost will fetch upwards of $750 thousand.
Without further ado, here are some of the Prevost buses at Hearthside.
First up, a convoy of Prevost buses leaving the resort for a Prevost rally in Quebec City. Yes, indeed, Canadian buses are the best. However, there are no conversion companies in Canada. If you want a Prevost motorcoach, you will be dealing with companies like Marathon in the U.S.
Here are a number of other coaches hidden away on various sites around the park. I have included a Newmar coach made by the same company who built our Dutch Star. The King Air is Newmar’s top of the line and easily crosses the million-dollar mark when purchased new.
A few more Prevost buses.
A tour of our site at Hearthside Grove in Petoskey, Michigan. Absolutely love this place!
Beautiful sites everywhere you look in Hearthside Grove. We are here for two weeks. The weather is perfect and we could easily spend our entire time just on the resort property. We do have plans, though, to tour the area. However, for the first few days, we will stick pretty close to the coach.
Here is a video of our arrival into Hearthside Grove:
“How do you jack up the front of your coach?” he asked me.
“I don’t know.” was my reply.
I called Newmar’s customer service. They told me to put a couple of 2x4s underneath the levelling jacks and manually push down. That would lift the front wheels up and, from their point of view, the only way to remove the tire without potentially causing damage to the front suspension system.
When we had a front tire changed last year, this was not the approach used by roadside assistance. They lifted the coach on a crossbeam that has a rather large sign on it. The sign says not to use a jack.
Hopefully he did no long term damage to the front suspension system of the coach.
Roadside assistance told me that the replacement tire did not need balancing. Well, it did. I could tell by driving the coach that the new tire was out of balance. Especially at speeds of around 60mph.
And now? All balanced. Just in time for our 11-hour drive to Petoskey tomorrow.